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  • posted a message on Weathr's list of 101 things wrong with NBA Live Mobile.

    @#10 just lmao do you know who laimbeer is or are you just looking up stats of someone you never heard of? One of the first centers to really add a consistent three to his game and almost 32.6% career 3pt% is great for that time. You didn't have guys jacking up threes the way they do today like curry or boogie. Hell, jordan averaged 1.7 threes per game on 32.7% for his career. MJ probably could have been a great three point shooter judging from his mechanics and occasional 3pt outbursts, but never had the need to develop one in an era where the three pointer was more a gimmick than a legitimate weapon. Goes to show that '89-'90 laimbeer's 2.0 attempts on 36% shooting for a center is pretty impressive. There are a lot of other players that deserve sharpshooter cards but i liked the ones they included. 

     

    fine list overall but as a bad boys fan i needed to put this out there

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  • posted a message on what to do with classic AI

    I built Classic AI with the intention to sell the day before the new year promo. Is there any hope in his price increasing past 30-40mil? I mean he is after all one of two players in the game with a clutch ability...

    Posted in: NBA Live Mobile Discussion
  • posted a message on 91 simmons or perfect present westbrook?

    I already have AI. Wondering who I should go for. Probably will build simmons anyway as an investment.

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  • posted a message on How I feel about the game AI
    Quote from OstertagGreg >>

    the main point for season 2 is most of the players does not enjoy the game. it is not about winning or losing. i dont enjoy game, ai bends rules for its benefit. basketball is simple: if the shot is contested it will be missed occasionally and if it is wide open it has to go in most times. ai is not playing well it just decides which shots will go in.

     no offense, but Im not sure if you've ever played organized basketball at a varsity or higher level, or even follow basketball at an NBA level. You understand that this game doesn't aim to emulate as realistically as possible a 48 minute game. For one, the pace of NBA live mobile is magnitudes faster than an NBA game. 15 points are easily doable in 2 mins in this game--stretch that out to 48 mins and tell me that you've seen an NBA game go to 180pts. Or look at points per possession, which i think is around 1 in the NBA as opposed to close 2 in this game.
    Contested shots don't just miss "occasionally" and wide open shots don't go in "most times." Last season Curry shot 46% on spot up catch and shoot threes (your generic "open" shots in rhythm) and eric gordon, who won the 3pt contest, shot 36.4%. You can only imagine the percentages dip, or at least not shoot up, when they're shooting off the dribble or with a hand in their face. If you want a more realistic game, 2K is your best shot. To emulate a complicated game like basketball is no easy task on a mobile console.
    Posted in: NBA Live Mobile Discussion
  • posted a message on How I feel about the game AI
    Quote from ptbird33 >>

    Please enlighten me on how I should react towards the game AI when I get 1-2 out of 5 OPEN 3 attempts (with 85 Harden and 84 Ball) while, at the same time, conceding contested 3s against 60's silver players.

     Scoring has to be one of the most inconsistent and messed up things in the game, and it's no secret that even in season 1 that bronze and silver (and even gold) players on AI could sometimes play like they were high-end elites. I rarely get more pissed than when a top 2 sg in the game goes 2-5 in wide open 20% releases. And that happens too often. I've pretty much given up on being hung up about that aspect of the game, because I do consistently score 15-18 a quarter with or without EA's help.
    What I do think can be more or less dealt with is defense. Like some guy on this thread who said he needs to work on his blocks, there's some aspects of defending the ball that anyone can improve upon. Playing clutch players really upped my defensive abilities last season and I dare say i'm pretty good at close-out blocks in the perimeter and in defending the paint after my man gets past me. I see youtubers having too much of a hard time getting easy steals, committing fouls when totally avoidable, overcommitting on steals. or giving up a drives and not being quick enough to switch to a frontcourt player in time for a block/contest. I can only imagine plenty of players are having the same problems but just blaming the game instead.
    Posted in: NBA Live Mobile Discussion
  • posted a message on How I feel about the game AI
    Quote from centurion_99 >>
    Quote from mayoyoyo >>
    Quote from centurion_99 >>

    OP shouldnt make threads like this unless he has been hit by 4 3s from shaq in an LvL quarter (one of them was a buzzer beater, so lets say 3). Centers and certain power forwards r shooting too well from the arc when they shouldnt be shooting at all from anywhere Beyond the paint. I dont object Kevin Love or KAT making 3s, or even porzingis, but when players like shaq, deandre, drummond hit those, that really pisses me off.  

     as I said.. I've been playing since soft launch and while I understand the problem, it's happened wayyyy more rarely for me now that i know how to play better than when i did a year or two ago. I agree it's EA's fault that cards that shouldn't be shooting threes are making them, but it's the player's fault if they're letting it happen 4 times a quarter. 
    HOw is it the players fault, if u have ur player up on AI's face and he makes the shots. Explain that then.  
     if that's what happened I guess it isn't your fault but it just seems weird that in my 200+ lvl tourneys and 90mil+ fans in season 1 i never let up more than two threes by a center/pf. I can count in one hand the times a center like shaq or dwight made two threes in one quarter. I don't think I can attribute that to being "lucky" or being just that good at the game, which I'm not. Heck, I've rarely even let the same pg or sg score 4 threes in one quarter against me, including clutch. 
    I remember back in S1 my leaguemates and I had a competition to see who would concede the most points in a league h2h quarter. My record was 14. Playing your best defense and giving up 12 points off threes to one card, whatever its position and 3pt rating, should not be the norm. From shaq? That's ludicrous.
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  • posted a message on How I feel about the game AI
    Quote from centurion_99 >>

    OP shouldnt make threads like this unless he has been hit by 4 3s from shaq in an LvL quarter (one of them was a buzzer beater, so lets say 3). Centers and certain power forwards r shooting too well from the arc when they shouldnt be shooting at all from anywhere Beyond the paint. I dont object Kevin Love or KAT making 3s, or even porzingis, but when players like shaq, deandre, drummond hit those, that really pisses me off.  

     as I said.. I've been playing since soft launch and while I understand the problem, it's happened wayyyy more rarely for me now that i know how to play better than when i did a year or two ago. I agree it's EA's fault that cards that shouldn't be shooting threes are making them, but it's the player's fault if they're letting it happen 4 times a quarter. 
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  • posted a message on How I feel about the game AI
    Quote from anatdoc >>
    Quote from mayoyoyo >>
    Quote from YoungFrobe >>

    The AI is less OP then before but they are still doing things we can’t do. For example

     

    they do skip passes and pass between each other 10 times in one second. If we did that it would be a turnover on the first pass.

     

    fadeaway threes with centers that have below a 30 3pt rating. For the CPU it’s money but for us it’s bricks.

     

    Rebounding. You can’t tell me that the CPU gets AT LEAST 2 offensive rebounds each game. Most annoying part of the game.

     

    closing out. The CPU will be 10+ feet away from my player when I decide to shoot and they gain flying powers and block it, meanwhile my player will stop before he even gets close to the shooter and pretend he’s actually defending him

     I agree with everything you said. I also give up a decent number of off boards, have had centers make consecutive threes, and have been blocked multiple times on a three I thought was wide open. I just don't think that's enough to say that the game is broke and the AI is OP to the point that tying or losing a quarter isn't your fault. I like that the AI can do think you can't do on manual--makes the game more fun tbh. 
    Thanks for the input.
     On a side note.. u just might be a good player.. the average user isn't.. that's why they rant when the ai i s so good..
     I think i'm an above average player but not an exceptional one. I definitely don't think i'm so good that i've just mastered a god-mode difficulty game that no one else can play well. I just wanted to see what exactly people were so angry about with the gameplay. 
    Posted in: NBA Live Mobile Discussion
  • posted a message on How I feel about the game AI
    Quote from Poontish >>

    I want to be clear so my rep isn't sullied (I need that rep for the ONE promo pack you are allowed to buy), I'm not losing those quarters i talk about.  More, I'm trying to share my overall experience.  

     I didn't say you were and didn't think you were losing or tying those quarters. I was addressing that towards the people who actually were losing and blaming EA on forums. 
    I think it's just a matter of proportion. I understand perfectly y'all's concerns and have had the same issues and still do. But that doesn't prevent me from consistently getting 20+ in lvl margins and winning most h2h matchups. And if you are doing the same, I think then that your experience isn't cheapened or soured. If the AI didn't grab those offensive boards or nail those tough shots at a high clip or make those ridiculous full court hail mary's from time to time, I think I'd concede even less and win by even more, and that's no fun. If i didn't have the rare day when I do like 3+ in a drive in lvl or h2h due to some BS, I'd have quit the game a long time ago. I took a two-month hiatus last season before the AW promo for that reason--it gets boring if you're doing 15+ a quarter with your eyes closed and so are your opponents.
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  • posted a message on How I feel about the game AI
    Quote from YoungFrobe >>

    The AI is less OP then before but they are still doing things we can’t do. For example

     

    they do skip passes and pass between each other 10 times in one second. If we did that it would be a turnover on the first pass.

     

    fadeaway threes with centers that have below a 30 3pt rating. For the CPU it’s money but for us it’s bricks.

     

    Rebounding. You can’t tell me that the CPU gets AT LEAST 2 offensive rebounds each game. Most annoying part of the game.

     

    closing out. The CPU will be 10+ feet away from my player when I decide to shoot and they gain flying powers and block it, meanwhile my player will stop before he even gets close to the shooter and pretend he’s actually defending him

     I agree with everything you said. I also give up a decent number of off boards, have had centers make consecutive threes, and have been blocked multiple times on a three I thought was wide open. I just don't think that's enough to say that the game is broke and the AI is OP to the point that tying or losing a quarter isn't your fault. I like that the AI can do think you can't do on manual--makes the game more fun tbh. 
    Thanks for the input.
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  • posted a message on How I feel about the game AI
    Quote from Poontish >>

    Bro, I don't want to argue.  Just in my opinion tho.....the AI be crazy.  They are able to do things you can't do.  That's crazy stuff right there.  Every single shot they take is a 0% on the shot meter and it all goes in.  Apparently you aren't getting fadeaway 3s shot on you by Cs and PFs who have no business behind the line (much less actually shooting it).  Top it off with insane passing and exploitation of the "limits" the game puts on you as a player, and you have the very definition of God-mode.

     

    The AI be crazy like an ex:  All over the place....taunting you, doing stuff she not supposed to do, and all trying very very hard to humiliate you in the process.  Ever seen a woman on GOD-MODE?

     Oh i've definitely had my share of Deandre's sinking midrange jumpers and Gasol and Jokic nailing fader threes. It's that they rarely make those, that I would usually steal it from a C or PF if they have the ball beyond the arc, and that there are subtle things I do on defense in terms of switching that would actually be hard for me to even explain because it's just instinct now. Point is, it's defendable and if it's not, then you live with it because it's not every quarter that they make those ridiculous shots.
    To get back to your point about frontcourt players sinking outside shots: centers don't pull up from three in transition point blank. They usually pass to a guard and if they attempt the outside shot it would be after they get it back, by which time your defense should be set. Like I said, sometimes you're at the mercy of the game, but more often than not, you can prevent yourself from being put in that position.
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  • posted a message on How I feel about the game AI

    Since day 1 of season 2 there've been hundreds of posts about "impossible AI" and I felt the same in the first few weeks, with CR lonzo pretty much making anything he put up for example.

    But honestly now i've been quite easily limiting 85-92 ovr lineups to 2-6 points a quarter on defense if i really tried (like in LVL) without compromising the game pace or my scoring. Players that shouldn't be missing wide open shots on AI, like totw beal or curry, have missed a number of times when I messed up on D and didn't close out, and rebounding isn't too bad either. 

    I really think that at this point in the game the AI is manageable and actually not OP at all. I agree the game is better without clutch shots and last season towards the end it got ridiculous playing defense against 5 ability players a lineup, but without abilities defense should be possible at least. I do have a 91 ovr franchise but I think a lot of the issues arise from players just not being good at defending. Watching youtubers complain about AI is just cancer most of the time, from talking about how "auto-play is the best defense" to spamming the steal button and blaming the broke game when they consequently give up a drive. 

     

    TL;DR i don't think the AI is crazy but seeing everyone constantly complain about it made me wonder if anyone other than myself and my leaguemates felt the same. 

    Posted in: NBA Live Mobile Discussion
  • posted a message on Best 3 PT PG & SG?

    i have both 88 harden and JR and have used klay and dion (all fully trained). JR is objectively the most consistent and that +1 3pt boost is an added bonus. 

    84 IT, fully trained even with the boost from JR, weirdly can be inconsistent, but after pioneer curry still my favorite in the pg spot. His AI is deceptively good also. 

    Since i'm rocking stockton at pg i can't really say much for classic pg in terms of the three ball. I have maggette at sg. He's mediocre at best but still better than some of the cards i've tried, like flashback j-rich, base ray allen and base dell curry. He's cheap though so i guess he's worth it at the moment before a better sg under 10 mil pops up.

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  • posted a message on Should I dump Maggette?

    Fully upgraded, he's nice. Not the most consistent, but outside of 90 ovr ray allen and mitch richmond he does have the best 3pt stat in his position

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  • posted a message on Good Elite Center?

    Harvest Whiteside is free, Gobert is the best bang for your buck, and Jokic has the best AI. I have maxed out DJ, but he's pretty average

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